H.R. 4411 Bill To Ban Internet Gambling Passes The House Today

[iuhas]

hmm...deja pe Party nu mai gasesti picior de american

[k_man]

hmmm... lame. Si mai interesant e ca acum Party nu mai arata cati jucatori sunt online...







Pacat... Parca totul mergea ca pe roate...

[k_man]

Asadar... unde s-au refugiat americanii? Sever, vad ca tu urmaresti mai intens desfasurarea actualei situatii... In afara de Stars si FullTilt... mai ai si alte "solutii" pt devoratorii de nord-americani?

[sever]

Bodog (au mb si click2pay)

Ultimate Bet
Absolute
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TonyG
Fullcontact poker dar la ultimele 2 nu am reusit sa depun cu cardul sau epassporte

Cei de la Mansion nu au luat inca o decizie.

[xPOPOVICIx]

sunt

sunt americani si la pokerroom

[sever]

ba nu. pokerroom and hollywood out... singurii din retea sint FCP (siteul lui Negreanu)

Following an in-depth analysis of the situation and extensive legal consultation, bwin has decided to comply with the new legislation and will no longer accept any new US-resident customers for its real money gaming products, effective immediately. The company is working on technical arrangements that will prevent existing customers from accessing its real money games. Until further notice, bwin will only be offering a play money line-up to the US market.

[priestdv]

dar totusi, ne explica careva care e smecheria?? cum de pe full tilt si poker stars mai pot juca si pe (cam) restu nu??? si pe noblepoker eu inca mai vad americani...ce se intampla?? mai joaca sau nu?? cum isi mai scot banii daca bancile nu le vor mai face transferurile??

[sever]

Bancile au 270 de zile in care sa inceapa sa inceteze platile CATRE siteurile de gambling. Banii sint safe anyway.
Companiile private mai pot incerca ceva... Alea 'publice' (listate la bursa) nu au de ales: 888, paradise, party
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Din pacate, se schimba si structura satelitilor online. Se estimeaza 2500~ de participanti pentru main eventul de anul viitor


Recently, there have been many rumors that, because of the new Internet gaming legislation, players will no longer be able to compete for seats at live, U.S.-based poker tournaments on Full Tilt Poker. We assure you, this is not the case.

For the foreseeable future, we will continue to offer all of our players the opportunity to win seats at World Poker Tour and World Series of Poker events through our bi-weekly Winner's Choice tournaments and other promotions at Full Tilt Poker. That said, effective immediately, we are implementing a change in how we award players with their tournament entries when they win an entry to a U.S.-based live tournament through an online qualifier.

Upon winning a Winner's Choice or other prize package to a live, U.S. tournament, Full Tilt Poker will immediately deposit any monies you may have won, excluding the cost of the tournament entry, into your player account. Additionally, at this time, you will be asked to provide Full Tilt Poker with proof of identification, your mailing address, and your shirt size so that we can send you a Full Tilt Poker shirt and hat to wear at the tournament.

Full Tilt Poker will then deposit your tournament entry fee into your player account. Once you receive these funds, you may use them to purchase your seat at the live tournament.

For example, say you win a $12,000 Winner's Choice prize package on July 1st for a live U.S. tournament on August 21st with a $10,000 buy-in. Upon your victory, we will immediately credit your account with as much as $2,000, which may be used to help offset your travel expenses and hotel reservations at the tournament site. Then, on or about August 1st, Full Tilt Poker will deposit $10,000 into your player account, which can be used to cover your tournament entry. At this time, we will also send your Full Tilt Poker gear. If you make it to the final table at the live tournament, Full Tilt Poker will pay you a logo bonus for wearing this gear on television. The size of your bonus will be dependant on your finishing position and the anticipated viewing audience of the televised tournament. You will be advised of the bonus structure prior to the event.

As this new legislation is implemented, Full Tilt Poker will continue to monitor the impact it may have on our ability to satellite players into live, U.S.-based tournaments, and will revise our policies as appropriate.

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si astazi am jucat cu unul din NY, altul din California... etc. pe pokerroom mai sunt americani care joaca online la real money. sunt convins ca esti mai bine informat decat mine in problema asta dar totusi... ce vad cu ochii mei vad si gata

[sever]

Eu doar am postat un anunt pus de companie... Iti dai seama ca nu stau si intru pe fiecare site si caut americani Inca nu au disparut, nu i-au exterminat

[sever]

UltimateBet Parent Excapsa Bought by Private Maltese Company

Just one day before US President Bush signed the Unlawful Internet
Gambling Enforcement Act into law, Excapsa Software sold its entire operation to Blast Off Ltd, a privately owned Maltese company, for a reported $130 million. Excapsa, parent company of Ultimate Bet.com, was one of the last publicly traded online gaming companies to divest itself of its US operations prior to the signing of the law.

Publicly traded companies are commonly prohibited by their listing regulations from knowingly violating any law where they operate. Regulatory issues, as well as the added potential shareholder liability, seemed to be the tipping point for online gaming companies contemplating tangling with the US's new legal environment. People speculated that the US market would be left only to private enterprises such as Poker Stars, Full Tilt Poker, and Doyle's Room. PokerStars had been scheduled to float a $1.6 billion IPO on the London Exchange next spring, but recently postponed those plans based on the US legislation.

Many had been puzzled by UltimateBet's recent affirmation that they would continue to support US online customers, wondering how Excapsa would traverse the regulatory terrain as a public company. The mystery is now solved. UltimateBet will continue to service US customers, but under its new private enterprise.

sursa pokernews

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Bush a scos pariurile on-line in afara legii
15 Octombrie 2006
Mihaela Dima, EVZ

Guvernul SUA, prin semnatura lui George Bush, a eliminat jocurile de noroc pe internet.

Pasionatii au pariat anul trecut aproximativ 6 miliarde de dolari si sunt nemultumiti de noua lege adoptata de guvern.

A paria pe internet a devenit de vineri o infractiune in Statele Unite. Documentul de intrare in vigoare a ilegalitatii jocurilor de noroc pe internet, semnat de presedintele Bush, odata cu legea de securitate a porturilor americane, interzice jucatorilor on-line folosirea cartilor de credit, a cecurilor si a transferurilor electronice de capital pentru a-si plasa sau a-si achita pariurile.

Legea impune o serie de constrangeri bancilor si celorlalte institutii financiare, multe dintre acestea contestand aceasta masura legislativa.

O noua prohibitie

Potrivit cotidianului „Washington Post”, initiatorul proiectului de lege, republicanul Robert W. Goodlatte, membru al Camerei Reprezentantilor, spune ca este impotriva tuturor jocurilor de noroc, amintind de „efectele lor negative asupra societatii”, dar mai ales a jocurilor de noroc pe internet, acesta fiind motivul pentru care a elaborat proiectul de lege in vara acestui an.

Liderul majoritatii din Senat, Republicanul Bill Frist, a atasat proiectul de lege al lui Goodlatte de un alt proiect pentru a se asigura ca acesta va ajunge rapid pe biroul presedintelui Bush pentru a fi semnat.

Admin edit: Pentru cine e curios in legatura cu cealalta lege semnata de Bush:
Port Security - Preventing Terrorists
http://www.9wsyr.com/news/local/stor...A-A5E607EE31AC



In timp ce sustinatorii pun accentul pe efectele jocurilor de noroc asupra societatii, opozantii subliniaza ca acestea sunt foarte populare si compara noua lege cu cea a Prohibitiei din 1919, care a dus la cresterea ilegalitatilor si dezvoltarea crimei organizate.

„Va fi ca-n timpul prohibitiei. Si ce s-a intamplat atunci?”, a declarat Annie Duke, campioana la poker, o fosta candidata la doctorat in cadrul Universitatii din Pennsylvania, care a devenit jucator profesionist de poker in 1994. „Am avut oameni care se plimbau de colo-colo cu pusti automate Thomson si beau bauturi de contrabanda pentru ca nu li se oferea un produs sigur.”

O afacere prospera

Noua lege ar putea paraliza o industrie mondiala al carei client principal sunt chiar Statele Unite. Cateva firme de pariuri on-line si-au retras deja operatiunile din SUA, iar altele au dat faliment, inclusiv companii din Marea Britanie, unde pariurile sunt legale.

Jocurile de noroc, la fel ca pornografia, sunt una dintre cele mai vechi afaceri de pe internet. Primul site care intermedia pariuri on-line a aparut in 1995, potrivit Asociatiei Americane a Jocurilor de Noroc. In ultimii zece ani, acestea au devenit extrem de populare, mai ales in randul tinerilor de 20 de ani.

Contradictie la nivel inalt

In Statele Unite, Ministerul de Justitie si tribunalele federale nu s-au pus inca de acord daca jocurile de noroc pe internet sunt sau nu ilegale. Ministerul de Justitie sustine ca legea federala din 1961 care interzice pariurile prin telefon se aplica si in cazul internetului.
Tribunalele sustin ca a paria pentru o echipa sportiva pe internet este acum ilegal, in timp ce a paria intr-un cazino, la un joc de poker, de exemplu, nu este.

Reprezentantii Aliantei Jucatorilor de Poker, un grup care face lobby pentru ca aceasta lege sa nu fie aplicata, sustin ca vor cere Congresului sa scoata pokerul de pe lista intrucat nu este un joc de noroc, ci unul de strategie.

Marea Britanie

Noi taxe pentru pariorii on-line

Pasionatii de jocuri de noroc din Marea Britanie care isi folosesc cartile de credit pentru a plati pariurile on-line trebuie sa achite taxe suplimentare si rate mai mari ale dobanzii.

Bancile spun ca pariurile trebuie considerate drept retrageri de capital, care sunt purtatoare de comision.

Banca Regala a Scotiei si Egg, banca on-line, au introdus deja conditii mai dure pentru cei care pariaza on-line.

Banca Yorkshire si Banca Clydesdale au inceput sa le trimita scrisori clientilor lor spunand ca este foarte posibil sa introduca co

[schmuck]

ce sa te astepti de la bush

[imilenco]

Eu sunt de parere ca singura scapare care mai este, si asa va fi si pt noi cand vor face legea asta si in romania este sa ii facem sa scoata pokerul de pe lista jocurilor de noroc, ceea ce cred ca s-ar putea realiza cu un fel de studiu al vreunui specialist care sa scoata in evidenta asta.

Eu as avea inca o intrebare destul de importanta. Dupa cum se vede inca mai sunt siteuri care accepta jucatori americani, in ciuda legii, astea companiile private. Credeti ca atunci cand legea va fi introdusa si in romania, vor mai exista macar siteurile astea de companii private care sa ne accepte si pe noi? e clar ca party, poker room etc. astea sigur nu ne vor mai accepta, dar sa zicem de exemplu pokerstars ne va mai accepta? mai ales ca suntem o comunitate aproape insignifianta la nivel mondial.

[tribaci]

Dar de unde esti tu asa sigur ca o sa apara o asemenea lege la noi? In Europa nu cred ca este vreo tara care sa interzica online gambling, iar in Anglia este chiar legal infiintarea de site-uri de gambling online