America

[Mentosan]

In threadul Romania precum si in altele s-a discutat subiectul Americii asa ca am decis ca merita un thread intreg si chiar si un poll.

[Ronnie47]

Ok, in primul rand ce inseamna "cultura americana"? Chicks gettin' drunk and posting pics on FB, hamburgers and obese people, immigrants pe fiecare metru patrat, respectarea legilor si politia care-si face realmente treaba, black dudes killing surenos etc. Asta e mai mult baiting ca vreau sa vad si perspectiva ta asupra pro/cons.
Per total imi place cultura americana pentru ca e un mare mix de influente venite din toate partile. Si asta pentru ca am vazut emisiuni cu tipi care se plimbau prin toata SUA si mancau in diferite locuri (Anthony Bourdain #1).

[obs]

E cu bunele si relele ei, poate trebuiau si niste nuante. Spun asta pentru ca eu as vota "da", evident, dar am si niste nay-nays pe care nu stiu cum le-ar putea cuantifica pollul. Dar intr-o lume doar cu America si una fara America, prefer, pentru binele meu, sa o aleg pe prima. Si acolo as fi un critic al societatii.

[Mentosan]

Pollul e o chestie simpla, pentru nuante folosim threadul propriu zis.

[10DARE]

In mod clar modelul de societate americana este format si bazat pe principiul "freedom of choice". Deci mi se pare usor aberant sa discutam pe tema asta. E ca si cand ai intreaba daca vrei democratie sau dictatura - orice discutie e aberanta din start.

Ah, ca avem mii de cazuri nashpa de discutat despre americani, asta nu neaga treaba cu "freedom of choice", dar asta e alta discutie.

P.S. Mie nu mi-a mers poll-ul, nu aveam radio buttons de selectat.

[Mentosan]

Citeva exemple de cultura americana, incepem cu muzica:


Jimi Hendrix, Chuck Berry, Jefferson Airplane, Bob Dylan, Frank Zappa, Sinatra, Velvet Underground, Dead Kennedys, The Ramones, Madonna, Michael Jackson, Nirvana, Metallica, The Doors
B.B. King, John Lee Hooker, Duke Ellington, Cab Calloway, Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, Stan Getz
Public Enemy, Eminem, Wu-Tang Clan, Tupac Shakur, Snoop Dogg, Mos Def, Jay-Z

O melodie care mie imi place foarte tare:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm0t99WmSCM]YouTube - Pull My Strings by The Dead Kennedys[/ame]
Versurile cintecului:

Hold it!!!
We're a group for adults now
We're not a punk band... we're a new wave band

I'm tired of self respect
I can't afford a car
I wanna be a prefab superstar

I wanna be a tool
Don't need no soul
Wanna make big money
Playing rock and roll

I'll make my music boring
I'll play my music slow
I ain't no artist, I'm a business man
No ideas of my own

I won't offend
Or rock the boat
Just sex and drugs
And rock and roll

Drool, drool, drool, drool, drool, drool
My Payola!
Drool, drool, drool, drool, drool, drool
My Payola!

You'll pay ten bucks to see me
On a fifteen foot high stage
Fatass bouncers kick the shit
Out of kids who try to dance

If my friends say
I've lost my guts
I'll laugh and say
That's rock and roll

But there's just one problem

Is my cock big enough
Is my brain small enough
For you to make me a star

Give me a toot, I'll sell you my soul
Pull my strings and I'll go far

And when I'm rich
And meet Bob Hope
We'll shoot some golf
And shoot some dope

Is my cock big enough?
Is my brain small enough?
For you to make me a star

Give me a toot, I'll sell you my soul
Pull my strings and I'll go far

Guitar!!!!

Is my cock big enough?
Is my brain small enough?
For you to make me a star

Give me a toot, I'll sell you my soul
Pull my strings and I'll go far

Drool, drool, drool, drool, drool, drool
My Payola!
Drool, drool, drool, drool, drool, drool
My Payola!

Istoria cintecului conform wikipedia:
The song was written because the band was invited to play at the 1980 Bay Area Music Awards (or Bammies), to play their hit "California Über Alles". However, they instead wrote this song solely for the show, and were never invited back. Also, this was the only time they ever played the song, despite its popularity.

During their performance, the Dead Kennedys wore white shirts with the letter S painted on the front. On the recording of the song, once "Pull My Strings" begins the audience can be heard cheering in response to the band members pulling their black neckties from behind their backs in front of them, making a dollar sign.

[Darth]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yydlX7c8HbY]YouTube - Rammstein - Amerika[/ame]

[Chronic]

piesa de mai jos rezuma destul de bine parerea mea despre "cultura americana" ...imo, o tara plina ipocriti, fakeri si obezi..ar fi trebuit sa ma mut acolo with my ex-wife, tot in midwest, unde esti si tu (probabil Chi city), acum ceva ani, insa n-am rezistat mai mult de 3-4 luni...prefer Europa de o mie de ori mai mult din zeci de mii de motive...unul dintre cele mai importante ar fi ca nu vreau sa fiu catalogat drept un F.O.B ptr tot restul vietii de catre un genuine retarded american...F%ck that ! enjoy the tune...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn52Px_h7_8]YouTube - Lazyboy - Underwear Goes Inside The Pants[/ame]

Why is marijuana not legal? Why is marijuana not legal?
It's a natural plant that grows in the dirt.
Do you know what's not natural?
80 year old dudes with hard-ons. That's not natural.
But we got pills for that.
We're dedicating all our medical resources to keeping the old guys erect,
but we're putting people in jail for something that grows in the dirt?

You know we have more prescription drugs now.
Every commercial that comes on TV is a prescription drug ad.
I can't watch TV for four minutes without thinking I have five serious diseases.
Like: "Do you ever wake up tired in the morning?"
Oh my god I have this, write this down. Whatever it is, I have it.
Half the time I don't even know what the commercial is:
people running in fields or flying kites or swimming in the ocean.
I'm like that is the greatest disease ever. How do you get that?
That disease comes with a hot chick and a puppy.

The schools now: It is all about self-esteem in the schools now.
Build the kids' self-esteem, make them feel good about themselves.
If everybody grows up with high self-esteem, who is going to dance in our strip clubs?
What's going to happen to our porno industry?
These women don't just grown on trees.
It takes lots of drunk dads missing dance recitals before you decide to blow a goat on the internet for fifty bucks.
And if that disappears, where does that leave me on a Friday night with my new high speed connection?

Masterminds are another word that comes up all the time.
You keep hearing about these terrorists masterminds that get killed in the middle east.
Terrorists masterminds.
Mastermind is sort of a lofty way to describe what these guys do, don't you think?
They're not masterminds.
"OK, you take bomb, right? And you put in your backpack. And you get on bus and you blow yourself up. Alright?"
"Why do I have to blow myself up? Why can't I just:"
"Who's the ******* mastermind here? Me or you?"

Americans, let's face it: We've been a spoiled country for a long time.
Do you know what the number one health risk in America is?
Obesity. They say we're in the middle of an obesity epidemic.
An epidemic like it is polio. Like we'll be telling our grand kids about it one day.
The Great Obesity Epidemic of 2004.
"How'd you get through it grandpa?"
"Oh, it was horrible Johnny, there was cheesecake and pork chops everywhere."

Nobody knows why were getting fatter? Look at our lifestyle.
I'll sit at a drive thru.
I'll sit there behind fifteen other cars instead of getting up to make the eight foot walk to the totally empty counter.
Everything is mega meal, super sized. Want biggie fries, super sized, want to go large.
You want to have thirty burgers for a nickel you fat mother fucker. There's room in the back. Take it!
Want a 55 gallon drum of Coke with that? It's only three more cents.

Sometimes you have to suffer a little bit in your youth to motivate yourself to succeed in later life.
Do you think if Bill Gates got laid in high school, do you think there'd be a Microsoft?
Of course not.
You got to spend a long time in your own locker with your underwear shoved up your ass before you start to think,
"You'll see. I'm going to take of the world of computers! I'll show them."

We're in one of the richest countries in the world,
but the minimum wage is lower than it was thirty five years ago.
There are homeless people everywhere.
This homeless guy asked me for money the other day.
I was about to give it to him and then I thought he was going to use it on drugs or alcohol.
And then I thought, that's what I'm going to use it on.
Why am I judging this poor bastard.
People love to judge homeless guys. Like if you give them money they're just going to waste it.
Well, he lives in a box, what do you want him to do? Save it up and buy a wall unit?
Take a little run to the store for a throw rug and a CD rack? He's homeless.
I walked behind this guy the other day.
A homeless guy asked him for money.
He looks right at the homeless guy and says why don't you go get a job you bum.
People always say that to homeless guys like it is so easy.
This homeless guy was wearing his underwear outside his pants.
Outside his pants. I'm guessing his resume isn't all up to date.
I'm predicting some problems during the interview process.
I'm pretty sure even McDonalds has a "underwear goes inside the pants" policy.
Not that they enforce it really strictly, but technically I'm sure it is on the books.

[maka]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZIzD0ZfTFg&feature=fvst]YouTube - Eminem - White America[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt6V4jhAyFM]YouTube - Eminem - We As Americans[/ame]

[Darth]

epic song Chronic

[NextRichGuy]

americanii tre sa fie in razboi cu cineva la orice ora...asta ii deosebeste de restul