2$ 10K garantat donkaments ,QQ dip

[cereala]

eram venit la masa de doua maini, si tocmai obvservasem huge stackul de la masa noua; eu nu am putut sa arunc, dar cand a dat shove parca mi-am adus aminte de ferdi cum face el flat la raise cu KK,AA; nush e de aruncat? nu e? e easy shove? , nush ...

PokerStars Game #28498727509: Tournament #163921001, $2.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXVIII (3500/7000) - 2009/05/22 23:11:37 EET [2009/05/22 16:11:37 ET]
Table '163921001 70' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: 4adam13a (55080 in chips)
Seat 2: b6666666 (514241 in chips)
Seat 3: KatKom (43949 in chips)
Seat 4: Kamakamilion (128424 in chips)
Seat 5: FociZsoca (38928 in chips)
Seat 6: AlanMuskul (105313 in chips)
Seat 7: masterxcvt (227387 in chips)
Seat 8: daybreaker62 (43835 in chips)
Seat 9: drdrewnd (11241 in chips)
4adam13a: posts the ante 875
b6666666: posts the ante 875
KatKom: posts the ante 875
Kamakamilion: posts the ante 875
FociZsoca: posts the ante 875
AlanMuskul: posts the ante 875
masterxcvt: posts the ante 875
daybreaker62: posts the ante 875
drdrewnd: posts the ante 875
Kamakamilion: posts small blind 3500
FociZsoca: posts big blind 7000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to masterxcvt [Qc Qs]
Kamakamilion said, "Ante*"
AlanMuskul: calls 7000
masterxcvt: raises 21000 to 28000
daybreaker62: folds
drdrewnd: folds
4adam13a: folds
b6666666: calls 28000
KatKom: folds
Kamakamilion: folds
FociZsoca: folds
AlanMuskul: calls 21000
*** FLOP *** [7h Jd 4c]
AlanMuskul: bets 21000
masterxcvt: raises 177512 to 198512 and is all-in
b6666666: raises 286854 to 485366 and is all-in
AlanMuskul: folds
Uncalled bet (286854) returned to b6666666
*** TURN *** [7h Jd 4c] [Tc]
*** RIVER *** [7h Jd 4c Tc] [Th]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
masterxcvt: shows [Qc Qs] (two pair, Queens and Tens)
b6666666 collected 520399 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 520399 | Rake 0
Board [7h Jd 4c Tc Th]
Seat 1: 4adam13a folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: KatKom (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Kamakamilion (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: FociZsoca (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: AlanMuskul folded on the Flop
Seat 8: daybreaker62 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: drdrewnd folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[ferdi]

e bine shove 190k in 120k. adica pretty standard in rangeu de turnee 1-100$.

la faza cu flat AA/KK pre mai vazut doar cand aveam in rangeu 20-30bb cand la cbet poti sa faci shove si rezolvi mana imediat si iei insta de la AJ/TT/QQ sa zicem.

in situatia de fata nai cum sa definesti rangeu de flat la iso raise a lu bigstack ca nu stii daca era decent sau spew. daca era decent automat are TT-AA in rangeu de call. daca e invers are TT-AA + AJ,KQ,AQ,66-99.

oricum o dai nai cum sa foldezi 190k in 120k cu dame si board sub si dupa cum ai scris mana rangeu lui de call la shove sa limitat la 77,AJ,TT-AA.
asta inseamna ca teai dus QQ vs TT+,77,AJs,AJo care e ok avand in vedere ce sa intamplat ;D