Am jucat bine sau nu?

[RoadStress]

POKERSTARS GAME #17332878357: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.01/$0.02) - 2008/05/10 - 13:31:28 (ET)
Table 'Alsuhail' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: emdeja ($1 in chips)
Seat 3: stang8899 ($0.72 in chips)
Seat 4: De Schlucke ($1.91 in chips)
Seat 5: Badietoto ($2.69 in chips)
Seat 6: PokerVana ($5.52 in chips)
Seat 7: Trindade1980 ($1.16 in chips)
Seat 8: RoadStress ($5.24 in chips)
Seat 9: BigViper1 ($1.48 in chips)
Badietoto: posts small blind $0.01
PokerVana: posts big blind $0.02
emdeja: posts big blind $0.02
buigie@np: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RoadStress [Qh Qs]
Trindade1980: calls $0.02
RoadStress: raises $0.02 to $0.04
BigViper1: folds
emdeja: raises $0.02 to $0.06
stang8899: calls $0.06
De Schlucke: raises $0.30 to $0.36
Badietoto: folds
PokerVana: folds
Trindade1980: folds
RoadStress: calls $0.32
emdeja: calls $0.30
stang8899: folds
*** FLOP *** [5h 4d Ac]
RoadStress: bets $0.20
emdeja: folds
De Schlucke: calls $0.20
*** TURN *** [5h 4d Ac] [3d]
RoadStress: bets $0.30
De Schlucke: calls $0.30
*** RIVER *** [5h 4d Ac 3d] [9h]
RoadStress: bets $0.50
De Schlucke: calls $0.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
RoadStress: shows [Qh Qs] (a pair of Queens)
De Schlucke: shows [Kd Kh] (a pair of Kings)
De Schlucke collected $3.04 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3.19 | Rake $0.15
Board [5h 4d Ac 3d 9h]
Seat 1: emdeja folded on the Flop
Seat 3: stang8899 folded before Flop
Seat 4: De Schlucke (button) showed [Kd Kh] and won ($3.04) with a pair of Kings
Seat 5: Badietoto (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: PokerVana (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: Trindade1980 folded before Flop
Seat 8: RoadStress showed [Qh Qs] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 9: BigViper1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)



Eu sunt RoadStress. In afara de un check pe river nu vad cum as fi putut juca altfel mana. Voi ce ziceti?

[Butu Mic]

Ti-ar fi platit si all-in daca cereai.......... check/call faceam eu

[capoeIRA]

nu te supara, destul de prost jucat:
- preflop, nu-mi place minraise mai ales la mizele astea! si call la inca 0,32 discutabil
- pe flop, bet 0.2 intr-un pot de 1,16 ce reprezinta? spune ca ai o mana la care nu esti gata sa renunti...
- turn idem 0,3 in pot de 1,56
- river, macar aici puteai sa incetezi agresiunea si sa optezi pentru check/call la un bet decent pentru ca ai fi putut sa induci un bluff de la o mana mai slaba si de aruncat nu cred ca puteai dc nu te-ai aruncat din timp.
Ca o concluzie, problema cu betingul tau la aceasta mana este ca nu ai facut nimic ca sa afli unde esti cu adevarat, recunoaste ca n-ai stiut nici cand a dat call dc esti in fata sau nu. Si erau destule variante...

[RoadStress]

Pai cu acel bet de 0.2 pe flop am vrut sa vad unde sunt si din moment ce nu a facut nimeni raise am zis ca stau bine si sa ii dau bice, iar pe turn m-am gandit ca daca avea un chinta imi dadea raise dar nimic...

Edit: Ce bet trebuia sa pun pe flop ca sa vad unde stau?

[Ciprian]

4+1 BB la mizele alea si un pic mai mare 7 BB, pentru ca tragi multi calleri cu raise standard.

cu min raise dupa limp nu o sa vezi never ever unde esti.

[RoadStress]

Pai 0.02*7=0.14. eu am pus 0.20.

[Colosal26]

El vorbea de raise preflop 4BB+1BB pentru fiecare limper.
Betul pe flop ar trebui sa fie cam 3/4 pot (~ 80 de centi)- nu ca ar fi indicat sa faci asta la cum s-a jucat ....

[neos2k1]

***** Hand History for Game 7051373659 *****
$5 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, May 12, 17:06:21 ET 2008
Table Table 127698 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: Asi01 ( $3.84 USD )
Seat 8: Neudachnick ( $5.58 USD )
Seat 10: geo2k8 ( $2.11 USD )
Seat 3: kawaudo ( $6.01 USD )
Asi01 posts small blind [$0.02 USD].
kawaudo posts big blind [$0.04 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to geo2k8 [ Ad Js ]
Neudachnick folds
geo2k8 raises [$0.08 USD]
Asi01 folds
kawaudo calls [$0.04 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3s, 8s, 5s ]
kawaudo bets [$0.12 USD]
geo2k8 calls [$0.12 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jh ]
kawaudo bets [$0.20 USD]
geo2k8 calls [$0.20 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ Jd ]
kawaudo bets [$1.04 USD]
geo2k8 is all-In [$1.71 USD]
kawaudo calls [$0.67 USD]
kawaudo shows [ 5c, 5d ]a full house, Fives full of Jacks.
geo2k8 show [ Ad, Js ]three of a kind, Jacks.
kawaudo wins $4.03 USD from the main pot with a full house, Fives full of Jacks.

Am gresit dar nu-mi dau seama unde exact. Eu sunt geo2k8.

[mgandrei]

Am gresit dar nu-mi dau seama unde exact. Eu sunt geo2k8.

Preflop ai dat un raise prea mic. Cum zicea cineva mai sus raise-ul preflop e bine sa fie 4xBB la care mai adaugi un BB pentru fiecare limper.

Pe flop nu trebuia sa dai call(fold sau cateodata raise). La ce te asteptai dupa? Sa faci culoare la J? Sa furi potul pe turn daca da check?

Apoi daca ai dat call pe flop cred ca turn si river sunt jucate destul de ok(ai putea considera un fold pe river),dar trebuie sa fii constient ca e posibil ca el sa aiba culoare din flop. Adica nu doar full te batea aici. Si daca da bet pe toate 3 strazile de cele mai multe ori are culoare sau un set/2 perechi pe flop care s-au imbunatatit la full pana pe river.