dilema top pair

[Pepsi]

deci:


FullTiltPoker Game #6116605647: Table Yellow Sage - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:09:01 ET - 2008/04/21
Seat 1: LarzDog ($48.50)
Seat 2: Trimms ($54.70)
Seat 3: StoneAgeSteve ($17.15)
Seat 4: dakid432 ($39.25)
Seat 5: blkblt2dan ($18.85)
Seat 6: pepsi25t ($61.40)
Seat 7: mccarty83 ($21.75)
Seat 8: TiltMeNotBB ($52.30)
Seat 9: 103106 ($16.75)
StoneAgeSteve posts the small blind of $0.25
dakid432 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pepsi25t [4c] [4s]
blkblt2dan folds
pepsi25t calls $0.50
mccarty83 folds
TiltMeNotBB raises to $2.25
103106 folds
LarzDog folds
Trimms folds
StoneAgeSteve folds
dakid432 folds
pepsi25t has 15 seconds left to act
pepsi25t calls $1.75
*** FLOP *** [3d] [Kc] [4d]
pepsi25t checks
TiltMeNotBB bets $3.75
pepsi25t raises to $11
TiltMeNotBB has 15 seconds left to act
TiltMeNotBB raises to $50.05, and is all in
pepsi25t calls $39.05
TiltMeNotBB shows [Ks] [As]
pepsi25t shows [4c] [4s]
*** TURN *** [3d] [Kc] [4d] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [3d] [Kc] [4d] [6d] [Jc]
TiltMeNotBB shows a pair of Kings
pepsi25t shows three of a kind, Fours
pepsi25t wins the pot ($102.35) with three of a kind, Fours
TiltMeNotBB adds $50
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $105.35 | Rake $3
Board: [3d Kc 4d 6d Jc]
Seat 1: LarzDog didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Trimms (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: StoneAgeSteve (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: dakid432 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: blkblt2dan didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: pepsi25t showed [4c 4s] and won ($102.35) with three of a kind, Fours
Seat 7: mccarty83 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: TiltMeNotBB showed [Ks As] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 9: 103106 didn't bet (folded)


Cati dintre voi ati fi foldat perechea in locul lui?

As dori sa deschid o discutie pe tema acestui subiect de care ma lovesc destul de des(eu avand top pair). De multe ori sunt jucatori care nu ii cunosc la masa si n-am read-uri n-am nimic.

[touche]

Deci pe tine te intereseaza o analiza din prisma lui ?
Eu cred ca omu' a jucat ok, mai ales contra unui unknow player. Top pair si top kiker, flop bun ... pe ce te poate pune el acolo ? Cine e fishu ala care sa vina la mana cu 44 sau 33 ?
Oricum tu ai facut o miscare gresita preflop ... e un loose call acolo cu small pair.

[Pepsi]

Stiu ca e loose call...M-am dus de 4 ori cu mouse-ul pe fold preflop dar m-am uitat ca are tot stackul (tocmai facuse rebuy) si am zis sa bag o fisa.

De asta ce parere ai?

FullTiltPoker Game #6082060452: Table Effinger - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 11:27:19 ET - 2008/04/18
Seat 1: MakeAstand ($68.35)
Seat 2: JodieG ($52.65)
Seat 3: Toast1185 ($49.95)
Seat 4: villainousV ($49.50)
Seat 5: Leethal_one ($41.45)
Seat 6: Pecast ($64.05)
Seat 7: drachdudek ($19.25)
Seat 8: pepsi25t ($82.15)
Seat 9: Poilvache ($49.60)
Toast1185 posts the small blind of $0.25
villainousV posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pepsi25t [10c] [Qc]
Leethal_one folds
Pecast folds
drachdudek folds
pepsi25t raises to $1.50
Poilvache folds
MakeAstand folds
JodieG folds
Toast1185 calls $1.25
villainousV folds
*** FLOP *** [10s] [4h] [5h]
Toast1185 checks
pepsi25t bets $3
Toast1185 raises to $9
pepsi25t has 15 seconds left to act
pepsi25t raises to $15
Toast1185 raises to $48.45, and is all in
pepsi25t has 15 seconds left to act
pepsi25t calls $33.45
Toast1185 shows [Qh] [Ah]
pepsi25t shows [10c] [Qc]
*** TURN *** [10s] [4h] [5h] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [10s] [4h] [5h] [7h] [Js]
Toast1185 shows a flush, Ace high
pepsi25t shows a pair of Tens
Toast1185 wins the pot ($97.40) with a flush, Ace high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $100.40 | Rake $3
Board: [Ts 4h 5h 7h Js]
Seat 1: MakeAstand didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: JodieG (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Toast1185 (small blind) showed [Qh Ah] and won ($97.40) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 4: villainousV (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Leethal_one didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Pecast didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: drachdudek didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: pepsi25t showed [Tc Qc] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 9: Poilvache didn't bet (folded)

[ferdi]

nu e deloc gresita miscarea joaca la set si adversarul are full bi ;p
la prima mana depinde de jucatorii de la masa ta daca faci open limp sau open raise cu 44.nu prea e de comentat , bucurate ca tia dat stack cu AK;D



acum cateva saptamani postai de pe la 200nl sau 400nl.nui de mirare dupa ce ai postat si mana cu qt ca acuma esti la 50nl si nu stiu cat mai rezisti si acolo pe ft ;D

tine potul cat mai mic cu top pair ( pot control ). in a2a mana lai facut pe ala sa si puna toti banii in mijloc corect ( over + fd ). dadeai call sa vezi ce aduce turn si intrai pe check/fold mode. daca era turn non heart poate te mai gandeai dar asa. mai exista shansa sa fie:
-Q pe turn si il agatzai
-non heart turn si river si ii dadeai ocazia sa blufeze.
deci orice miscare in afara de ce ai facut tu era mai avantajoasa: pierdeai minim sau castigai tu.

[Pepsi]

Intradevar am jucat la 200NL la 400NL si chiar la 1000NL. Daca nu ma descurc la 50NL ma duc si mai jos, nici o problema.
Sunt de acord ca am jucat f prost ultima mana, dar totusi omul s-a bagat all in cu mai putine odds.

[AndreiL]

la prima mana in locul lui eram fold fara sa ma gandesc prea mult, dupa limp - call la raise fara poz - check/raise te puneam fix pe set, foarte multi au linia asta cu PP mic si prind set(altii sunt check/call pana pe river unde dau check/min raise)
la a doua asta e sunt unii care pun tot stackul pe un draw si sunt unii care nu fac asta, asta era dintre primii

[ferdi]

la a2a cu ambele categorii scapa FF ieftin sau castiga daca nu completau rosiile