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[Darth]

tu, dak ai fi fish, ai AK, dai raise, vine A pe flop, dai bet si te plateste adversaru, ce ai face dak ar veni turn A si ai fi primu la vorba?

[frenzy]

extasyman:
ok. nu vorbeam neaparat de mana a 3-a. ai jucat pe rand A10, A9, 78. nu sunt maini puternice. cred ca esti de acord. mainile astea poti sa le joci atunci cand mai vrei sa furi blinduri. altfel, dai mai tot timpul de necaz.
rar te nimereste un flop cu A 10 sau A9. la mana cu A9 ai dat raise din CO. sa zicem ca te platea cineva cu AJ. ce faci daca vine asul pe flop??? pierzi toate chipsurile de cele mai multe ori.

[touche]

tocma' m'am inscris si eu la turneu. Sa vedem ce o iesi.
In primele 4 maini am aruncat de 2 ori nuts. Preflop ce e drept. A 3 oara am aruncat cea mai buna mana ...dar flopul ma distrugea

Primele maini:
PokerStars Game #13234115358: Tournament #67154777, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/11/14 - 09:42:54 (ET)
Table '67154777 9' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: aves61 (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: mshi (1480 in chips)
Seat 3: Marcustars (1220 in chips)
Seat 4: flush1994 (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: xxTOUCHExx (1480 in chips)
Seat 6: Kromo23 (1840 in chips)
Seat 7: stayanti (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: Seröga666 (1480 in chips)
Seat 9: low2cat (1500 in chips)
Marcustars: posts small blind 10
flush1994: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xxTOUCHExx [Qh] [10s]
xxTOUCHExx: folds
Kromo23: calls 20
stayanti: folds
Seröga666: calls 20
low2cat: folds
aves61: calls 20
mshi: calls 20
Marcustars: calls 10
flush1994: checks
*** FLOP *** [9d] [Jc] [8c]
Marcustars: bets 220
flush1994: calls 220
Kromo23: folds
Seröga666: folds
aves61: folds
mshi: calls 220

PokerStars Game #13234136814: Tournament #67154777, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/11/14 - 09:44:55 (ET)
Table '67154777 9' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: aves61 (1480 in chips)
Seat 2: mshi (1240 in chips)
Seat 3: Marcustars (1740 in chips)
Seat 4: flush1994 (1250 in chips)
Seat 5: xxTOUCHExx (1460 in chips)
Seat 6: Kromo23 (1890 in chips)
Seat 7: stayanti (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: Seröga666 (1440 in chips)
Seat 9: low2cat (1500 in chips)
xxTOUCHExx: posts small blind 10
Kromo23: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xxTOUCHExx [Qd] [Kd]
stayanti: raises 60 to 80
Seröga666: calls 80
low2cat: folds
aves61: calls 80
mshi: folds
Marcustars: raises 920 to 1000
flush1994: folds
xxTOUCHExx: folds
Kromo23: folds
stayanti: raises 500 to 1500 and is all-in
Seröga666: folds
aves61: calls 1400 and is all-in
Marcustars: calls 500
*** FLOP *** [6h] [6d] [Qh]
*** TURN *** [6h] [6d] [Qh] [Kc]
*** RIVER *** [6h] [6d] [Qh] [Kc] [Kh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
stayanti: shows [Ac] [Ks] (a full house, Kings full of Sixes)
Marcustars: shows [5d] [5s] (two pair, Kings and Sixes)
stayanti collected 40 from side pot
aves61: shows [Ah] [Jh] (a flush, Ace high)
stayanti collected 4550 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4590 Main pot 4550. Side pot 40. | Rake 0
Board [6h] [6d] [Qh] [Kc] [Kh]
Seat 1: aves61 showed [Ah] [Jh] and lost with a flush, Ace high
Seat 2: mshi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Marcustars showed [5d] [5s] and lost with two pair, Kings and Sixes
Seat 4: flush1994 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: xxTOUCHExx (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Kromo23 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: stayanti showed [Ac] [Ks] and won (4590) with a full house, Kings full of Sixes
Seat 8: Seröga666 folded before Flop
Seat 9: low2cat folded before Flop (didn't bet)
__________________________________________________ ______

PokerStars Game #13234259179: Tournament #67154777, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/11/14 - 09:56:15 (ET)
Table '67154777 20' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Canciano (850 in chips)
Seat 2: silo1001 (2520 in chips)
Seat 3: DrUwe (1550 in chips)
Seat 4: D-Struc (2780 in chips)
Seat 5: xxTOUCHExx (1750 in chips)
Seat 6: kira21 (1100 in chips)
Seat 7: cynssummer (2670 in chips)
Seat 8: loquilloArg (1380 in chips)
Seat 9: bbbetts (3380 in chips)
loquilloArg: posts small blind 10
bbbetts: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xxTOUCHExx [Kc] [Ah]
Canciano: folds
silo1001: folds
DrUwe: calls 20
D-Struc: folds
xxTOUCHExx: raises 60 to 80
kira21: raises 1020 to 1100 and is all-in
cynssummer: folds
loquilloArg: folds
bbbetts: calls 1080
DrUwe: folds
xxTOUCHExx: folds
*** FLOP *** [7s] [4s] [Ks]

.....

bbbetts: shows [As] [Qs] (a flush, Ace high)
kira21: shows [Ac] [Qc] (high card Ace)

[extasyman]

Darth_Rage...mana aia poti sa fii deacord ca e chiar discutabila....n-aveam de unde sa stiu exact daca e fish sau nu,pe langa asta,dupa ce a facut raise mic preflop si weak bet pe flop putea sa aiba chiar orice...pe de o parte cu bet-ul meu pe turn puteam sa-l foldez daca avea pana la 99 si sa-l fac sa dea doar call cu 10 x sau cu JJ,QQ,KK,clar nu puteam sa-l pun direct pe as deci cu bet-ul asta am aflat....pe de alta parte daca STIAM ca are A normal ca dadeam check..pe turn n-aveam nimic deci mi-ar fi convenit sa iau potul acolo

[frenzy]

uitata-te la ce maini joaca touche sau, mai bine zis, ce maini arunca touche si fa o mica comparatie. e mai usor de luat decizii cand joci cu carti bune.
hai bafta

[extasyman]

florinel...parerea mea e ca tu esti pe langa evenimente...in mana in care aveam
A 9,eram CO,toti au dat fold pana la mine,mi s-a parut normal un raise...in mom
in care am primit call de la buton ma gandeam ca E POSIBIL sa aiba A cu ceva mai mare deci stai linistit ca nu pierdeam tot daca venea A pe flop iar din mom ce flopul a fost 9 5 5 si tot n-am pierdut decat jumatate din stack butonul avand
5 6 ...si ce iti doresti mai mult decat flopul ala cand ai A 9 dupa raise....

[touche]

KK vs AA

Va mai deranjez cu o mana. Am spart in sfarsit niste ashi. M'am prins eu preflop ca e ceva necurat la mijloc ... da nu m'am mai putut arunca.

PokerStars Game #13234501309: Tournament #67154777, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/11/14 - 10:17:54 (ET)
Table '67154777 20' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Canciano (3850 in chips)
Seat 2: junior100 (1300 in chips)
Seat 3: appleman33 (1095 in chips)
Seat 4: D-Struc (1520 in chips)
Seat 5: xxTOUCHExx (2900 in chips)
Seat 6: adski2000 (5945 in chips)
Seat 7: LarsOWL1979 (3090 in chips)
Seat 8: loquilloArg (2915 in chips)
Seat 9: bbbetts (5765 in chips)
adski2000: posts small blind 25
LarsOWL1979: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xxTOUCHExx [Kh] [Ks]
loquilloArg: folds
bbbetts: raises 100 to 150
Canciano: calls 150
junior100: folds
appleman33: folds
D-Struc: folds
xxTOUCHExx: raises 300 to 450
adski2000: folds
LarsOWL1979: folds
bbbetts: raises 600 to 1050
Canciano: folds
xxTOUCHExx: calls 600
*** FLOP *** [7s] [6s] [9s]
bbbetts: checks
xxTOUCHExx: bets 1200
bbbetts: raises 3515 to 4715 and is all-in
xxTOUCHExx: calls 650 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [7s] [6s] [9s] [2c]
*** RIVER *** [7s] [6s] [9s] [2c] [Ts]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bbbetts: shows [Ac] [Ad] (a pair of Aces)
xxTOUCHExx: shows [Kh] [Ks] (a flush, King high)
xxTOUCHExx collected 6025 from pot

[Ravenlord]

nu stiu ca de buna a fost decizia de a folda AK acolo... cand esti mai deep da, poti sa spui ca ai jucat prea mult timp concentrat ca sa dai pur si simplu shove cu AK... dar la inceputul turneului, adica in prima ora... mi se pare long term +EV call all-in cu AK, chiar si vs 2 oameni, poti sa fii sigur ca pe cel putin unul dintre ei il domini...

Acu ma pun si eu pe jucat. Sper sa am rezultate bune, si sa m-ajute forma buna psihica in care sunt datorita faptului ca am luat azi carnetul de soferi

GL in coinflips la toti calutzii!

[touche]

In mod normal trebuia call acolo ...dar am zis sa joc super tight in prima parte a turneului.
In alta ordine de idei , o serie de 3 maini consecutive QQ,TT,AQ m'au adus in pragu colapsului. De fiecare data am fost platit iar flopul a fost dezastros. I'm on tilt.



PS:
And out.. pe locul 43 (

[frenzy]

florinel...parerea mea e ca tu esti pe langa evenimente...in mana in care aveam
A 9,eram CO,toti au dat fold pana la mine,mi s-a parut normal un raise...in mom
in care am primit call de la buton ma gandeam ca E POSIBIL sa aiba A cu ceva mai mare deci stai linistit ca nu pierdeam tot daca venea A pe flop iar din mom ce flopul a fost 9 5 5 si tot n-am pierdut decat jumatate din stack butonul avand
5 6 ...si ce iti doresti mai mult decat flopul ala cand ai A 9 dupa raise....

vroiai cumva sa furi blindurile, adica 30 de chipsuri? ce e asa normal?

[kytra]

Cine ma tine si pe mine la 2 turnee din-astea pe PS? Dau banii pe FT sau 50% din profit
Pls... ca mi-ati facut pofta
PS: sn Stars: kytra

PS2: poate sa-mi spuna cineva ce ITM am pe PS? sau unde ma pot verifica moka?

[sever]

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[Ravenlord]

uitata-te la ce maini joaca touche sau, mai bine zis, ce maini arunca touche si fa o mica comparatie. e mai usor de luat decizii cand joci cu carti bune.
hai bafta

nu mai zi lucruri de genu asta... e ca si cum ai afirma direct ca touche e un jucator mai bun de turnee ca respectivul... ceea ce nu poate spune nimeni... fiecare joaca cum stie, la sfarsit clasarile si banii (rata profitului) sunt factorii care "do the talking", prea putin conteaza ca unul joaca ultra-TAG si altul SLAP...

[frenzy]

my bad. erau doar sfaturi. nu obliga nimeni pe nimeni cu nimic.

[Ravenlord]

out pe 40 la al 3-lea turneu...
in primul sfert de ora a trebuit sa foldez 10 10 si QQ pe niste board-uri cu 2 overcards de fiecare data... ceea ce m-a lasat cripple-uit inca de la inceput.. am reusit sa ma dublez 1 data cu AJ vs KK si apoi am trait din furturi...
la final eram chiar super-short si am incercat un move din buton cu Q3, am fost platit de A8s... and that's it..