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  • #16
    Voi nu ati citit posturile anterioare?
    "Events, dear boy, events..."

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    • #17
      Se pare ca o investigatie a inceput deja:


      Commission Probes AbsolutePoker.com
      Thursday October 18, 2:32 pm ET
      Kahnawake Gaming Commission Starts Probe Into Possible Cheating on AbsolutePoker.com


      LAS VEGAS (AP) -- The Kahnawake Gaming Commission in Canada said that it has begun a probe into widespread allegations of cheating at a Mohawk-run company that operates the online poker site, AbsolutePoker.com.
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      Bloggers on online poker forums such as The 2+2 Forums have pointed out irregular play from hand histories that make it appear that a player with the handle "POTRIPPER" seemed to know other players' hole cards.

      Commission chair David Montour said in a statement Wednesday that the commission on the Mohawk Kahnawake reservation has appointed an Australian consulting firm, Gaming Associates, to conduct an audit of the site.

      "The audit will not be restricted to examining theories circulating in Internet chat rooms and fora," Montour said in the statement.

      "It is essential that all online gaming and wagering is conducted in a fair and honest manner where customers are protected," he said. "It is important that we, as a commission, act on findings and not allegations alone."

      According to Absolute Poker's Web site, the site is owned by Tokwiro Enterprises Enrg, located in Mohawk territory nine miles south of Montreal, Quebec. It said Tokwiro was a Mohawk owned and controlled sole proprietorship.

      The commission said the site held a gambling license with the commission and was obliged to adhere by its regulations.

      Messages left by The Associated Press with the commission and the site were not immediately returned.



      Articolul a fost publicat de Yahoo, sectia Finantze
      Last edited by summit; 19.10.2007, 01:26.
      "Poker is a godless game, full of random pain." ~ Andy Bloch

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      • #18
        Se pare ca nu mai este nevoie de o investigatie

        "AP to Admit System Was Compromised

        PocketFives just received a phone call from Absolute Poker confirming the suspicions of the online poker community over the past month. While we need to be vague in this post to respect their wishes, we can say that their systems were compromised, and that they are prepared to provide the details in a statement coming shortly.

        Part of the statement will include a plan to refund players affected by this compromise."

        AP to Admit System Was Compromised

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        • #19
          Da si ala nu putea sa o faca mai ascuns.
          Fantastic ce era asa greu.

          Juca maini plauzibile si castiga la ring nu neaparat turnee! Constant la high stakes 10-20k pe zi nimeni nu se prindea.
          Trying to quit.

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          • #20
            As acorda o bila alba AP-ului fiindca a facut public HH-ul complet, asta sugereaza ca nu a intentionat sa ascunda ceva.



            October 21, 2007

            Dear AP Player:

            I am the former Grand Chief of the Mohawk Territory of Kahnawake and the owner of Tokwiro Enterprises ENRG, which holds a 100% interest in Absolute Poker.

            As many of our players are aware, there has been a security breach in our system that allowed unlawful access to player information that resulted in unfair play. I am writing to you today to let you know what we know so far in order to set the record straight, and to assure you of AP's commitment to player security. I am sure that this letter will not address all of the questions and concerns you may have, nor will it extinguish the heated discussion surrounding this issue. At this point, our intention is to let you know all we can disclose and to assure you of our continued efforts to keep you informed as best we can as the investigations continue.

            We deeply regret this situation has occurred. A breach in security in online poker is serious and of great concern to players and the industry worldwide, and this particular situation has been the subject of debate within the poker player community and in the media, giving rise to the creation of several websites and hundreds and hundreds of comments, opinions, and theories of what occurred – some of which are accurate, and some that are not.

            Like you, I have not been happy that during the initial stage of our investigation, AP has not been more forthcoming in providing a timely or comprehensive explanation on this matter, giving rise to anger, suspicion, and concern on the part of our valued customers. I hope that our customers can appreciate that this remains an incredibly complex and sensitive issue, and I want to give you my strongest possible assurance that we will be as forthcoming as possible on how this breach occurred and what we are doing to remedy the situation.

            What We Know and Actions We Have

            AP was notified by a customer that a possible cheating incident occurred during a recent tournament, and in response forwarded players' hand logs. This disclosure of the hand logs prompted our customers to determine that a more serious security breach had occurred. We immediately launched an internal investigation and also requested a formal audit by Gaming Associates, an acknowledged world-wide expert in audits, interactive gaming tests, and information security.

            Based upon our preliminary findings, it appears that the integrity of our poker system was compromised by a high-ranking trusted consultant employed by AP whose position gave him extraordinary access to certain security systems. As has been speculated in several online forums, this consultant devised a sophisticated scheme to manipulate internal systems to access third-party computers and accounts to view hole cards of other customers during play without their knowledge. As this consultant was aware of the details of our fraud detection process, the likelihood that the scheme would be uncovered through our normal procedures was minimized. We consider this security breach to be a horrendous and inexcusable offense.

            We will pay for all losses suffered by the affected players as soon as our audit is finished and the amounts are determined. Although we are in the process of attempting to recover all the winnings of this consultant, any unrecovered losses of affected players will be paid by Absolute Poker so that all affected persons will be made whole.

            Next Steps

            We are still investigating whether the consultant was acting alone or in concert with others, and it appears at this time that all account holders are innocent of collusion and were unaware of any wrong-doing by the consultant, who was immediately terminated. We continue to investigate this matter aggressively, and all of these preliminary findings are subject to the audits currently underway. We have recently uncovered additional accounts used by the consultant that have not been publicly reported. So as to not compromise the investigation, we are not releasing the names of these additional accounts at this time, and will contact these affected customers individually.

            The specific allegations of unlawful activity are being investigated both by AP and by the authorized authorities, including the Kahnawake Gaming Commission. We will continue to actively cooperate with these authorities in full compliance with the Regulations Concerning Interactive Gaming. In addition to our own investigation and the audit by Gaming Associates, we have also submitted to an audit by the Kahnawake Gaming Commission.

            Please be assured that we have corrected the problem that allowed the system to be unfairly manipulated. We are working furiously to increase the safeguards within our systems. While we are satisfied that our systems are secured, we realize that our security systems must be continuously monitored and enhanced.

            Without question, this incident has been unfortunate for all concerned, and we will emerge as a stronger company. I realize it will take some time and much more information for AP to re-earn the trust and confidence of our customers who are in doubt of our commitment to the highest levels of security, privacy and integrity. As we move to address and correct this situation, our valued customers have played a vital role in uncovering this scheme through various online forums and have become an active part of the solution.


            With my full sincerity, I thank you, and I promise to keep you updated as we bring this situation to a close.


            Sincerely,

            Joe Norton

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            • #21
              L-a gasit marele sef pe acarul paun in persoana ofrandei pentru zei de luna asta...Bravo mare sef,poate scapi!

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              • #22
                Nu inteleg de ce nu am pomenit nimic de marmota, am citit special pentru asta totul! Poate nu stiu eu cum se zice la marmota in engleza.

                Daca ar fi cu adevarat cinstiti, ar face publice toate logurile din trecut ale userului care trisa, la toate turneele si mesele de cash. Ca sa pice de tot in ridicol, au precizat aici ca banii i-au fost confiscati, fara sa precizeze ca banii astia au fost facuti si in trecut, nu numai la turneul cu pricina.
                Da stim cu totii de ce nu precizeaza si istoricul astuia: pesemne ca ar trebui sa despagubeasca toti jucatorii de pe AP.

                Niste jeguri. Macar am consolarea ca astia care fac misto de teoria conspiratiei tac acum malc pe subiectul asta. Le cam da cu virgula aici.

                A, si inca ceva: toate siturile de poker stau acum cu ochii pe comunitatea jucatorilor sa le vada reactia intr-o asemenea situatie - e un scandal care li s-ar putea intampla si lor oricand si ii intereseaza cat vor pierde intr-o asemenea eventualitate. Trebuie sa piarda tot!
                Deci...

                NU MAI JUCATI PE ABSOLUTE POKER !

                Daca Holdem.ro ar fi al meu, as pune un banner mare cu mesajul asta pe prima pagina.
                Last edited by obs; 22.10.2007, 15:56. Motiv: Automerged Doublepost

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                • #23
                  Orice s-ar fi intamplat pe Absolute , ce se poate observa e ca sunt cam acelasi nr de jucatori, au cam disparut rechinii si au ramas fishii care nu ii intereseaza sau nu stiu ca s-ar fi intamplat ceva aici. Ce am constatat in urma acestui scandal....am revenit la castigurile foarte mari, dupa o perioada de mers pe 0. Asa ca poate conteaza mai putin ce s-a intamplat, oricarui site i se poate intampla zic eu.
                  Important pt mine nu e ce se intampla pe un site ci cum sunt castigurile mele.
                  Descopera talharul din tine !

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                  • #24
                    postu meu de pe pagina 1 a topicului


                    Postat în original de Darth_Rage Vezi post
                    actually, ar putea fi un lucru bun. Here's why:

                    jucatorii buni, frecventeaza 2+2, alte forumuri de poker. o sa citeasca despre asta, si n-or sa mai joace.

                    fishii, habar n-au, raman acolo. noi venim peste ei, bam bam, $$$

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