Call aiurea?

[sever]

PokerStars Game #4728788769: Tournament #23515127, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/04/24 - 12:10:11 (ET)
Table '23515127 15' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Canucktr (880 in chips)
Seat 2: guillote (1450 in chips)
Seat 3: Sleeper_Hold (1620 in chips)
Seat 4: janza03 (1300 in chips)
Seat 5: comradeace (1870 in chips)
Seat 6: s3ver (2000 in chips)
Seat 7: Steven Snell (1220 in chips)
Seat 8: gallowgate (1760 in chips)
Seat 9: aeest400 (1400 in chips)
comradeace: posts small blind 10
s3ver: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to s3ver [Ks Ts]
Steven Snell: raises 20 to 40
gallowgate: folds
aeest400: folds
Canucktr: calls 40
guillote: folds
Sleeper_Hold: folds
janza03: calls 40
comradeace: folds
s3ver: calls 20
*** FLOP *** [8c Qs 9s]
s3ver: checks
Steven Snell: checks
Canucktr: bets 20
janza03: raises 20 to 40
s3ver: calls 40
Steven Snell: calls 40
Canucktr: raises 800 to 840 and is all-in
janza03: folds
s3ver: raises 1120 to 1960 and is all-in
Steven Snell: folds
*** TURN *** [8c Qs 9s] [Tc]
*** RIVER *** [8c Qs 9s Tc] [6s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
s3ver: shows [Ks Ts] (a flush, King high)
Canucktr: shows [Qd Kc] (a pair of Queens)
s3ver collected 1930 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1930 | Rake 0
Board [8c Qs 9s Tc 6s]
Seat 1: Canucktr showed [Qd Kc] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 2: guillote folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Sleeper_Hold folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: janza03 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: comradeace (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: s3ver (big blind) showed [Ks Ts] and won (1930) with a flush, King high
Seat 7: Steven Snell folded on the Flop
Seat 8: gallowgate folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: aeest400 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[touche]

E Ok ..

[sever]

de mine ziceam

[RedStar]

Vrei sa spui ca de ce nu ai facut raise ? Asa se joaca Kxs bine, cu raise-urile te descoperi aiurea.

[sever]

la partea asta mai exact

s3ver: calls 40
Steven Snell: calls 40
Canucktr: raises 800 to 840 and is all-in
janza03: folds
s3ver: raises 1120 to 1960 and is all-in

[touche]

am zis OK
Dar adevarul e ca e un pic cam riskat sa intri all in fara nimik in mana.
Avand in vedere ca tzi a esit ... finalitatea maini ne spune ca decizia a fost cea buna.
Mie unu 'mi place sa risk ..deci as fi jucat la fel ...dar stiu si eu ...
ai unu in all in ..si inca unu care urmeaza dupa tine
Destul de riskant ..dar ..ai avut noroc.

[RedStar]

Nu a fost bun ca nu aveai ce mai buna combinatie, a fost bun ca aveai 52% sanse sa-ti intre chinta sau flush.
Nu cred ca exista reteta pentru asa ceva. Din moment ce ai luat potul a fost un call bun.

[imilenco]

"Din moment ce ai luat potul, a fost un call bun"?? Analizele mainilor se fac pe termen lung. Si de unde ai scos 52%? avea 12 outsuri din care 3 pt egalitate pe flop, la 12 outsuri cu 2 carti sa vina ai aproximativ 40% sanse. Si avea 9 outsuri sa castige potul, deci aproximativ 34% sanse sa castige. Ai riscat jumate din stack pe un draw la inceputul turneului, cred ca e gresit. Mia castigata nu e la fel de importanta ca mia pe care ai fi putut-o pierde.

[Asul]

Sever avea 47% sanse dupa flop.

[touche]

hmmm

Eu zic ca avea numai 25% sanse dupa flop.
Matematic vorbind.
Ca outsuri ..nu stiu ce inseamna ..

[RedStar]

Inca 2-3 reply-uri sa-ti ajunga sansele pe la 1-2% dupa flop si chiar ai avut bulan nesimtit sa dai call si sa-ti intre

[SerJ]

as fi dat call cu siguranta daca erau mai multi bagati de la mana... pt ce sa imi risk stackeu pt un kkt de allin de 800 a unuia... si nu trebuia sa dea reraise peste ala.. doar call .. poate se mai baga vreun paduche

[imilenco]

Am vazut niste chestii gresit pe acolo si am pus J ca fiind bune si pt adversar, dar sunt de acord cu serJ in privinta callului.

[sever]

Eu zic ca avea numai 25% sanse dupa flop.
Matematic vorbind.
Ca outsuri ..nu stiu ce inseamna ..

outsuri = carti din pachet care te ajuta

[Darth]

Daca erai la ring as fi zis ok... la MTTs nu-mi place sa fac asta.