NL5 - 2 pair pe flop, villain agresiv

[udroiu80]

weaktight | Hand | 28o - $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem

raulmza vpip/pfer/agg - 21/9/6 pe 33 maini

O situatie des intalnita, 2 perechi pe flop, villain agresiv.
- Cum ar fi trebuit sa reactionez la raise ul lui pe flop, am egalat bine sau trebuia 3bet?
- Pe turn, ce ar trebui sa fac, tinand cont ca poate adversarul meu a simtit slabiciune prin call ul meu de pe flop?

Multumesc!

[adyshorr]

De ce esti cu 60bb la toate mesele ? Nu joci nici BSS nici SSS , strange. Check/call turn, si te rogi sa dea check cu o pereche pe river, daca nu te imbunatatesti.

[bugs3479]

are 2pair, de ce sa se roage sa dea check villain pe river?

[NickRock]

LE: nu m-am uitat atent la mana

[adyshorr]

Are bottom two pair , ce bate acolo avand in vedere ca joaca cu un jucator decent, nu un peste prajit care o ia razna cu o pereche.

[pokkerface]

De ce esti cu 60bb la toate mesele ? Nu joci nici BSS nici SSS , strange. Check/call turn, si te rogi sa dea check cu o pereche pe river, daca nu te imbunatatesti.

Ce joaca el se numeste half stack strategy:

General Aproach:
Buy-in for 50bb.
Re-load when you drop below 40bb.
At 75bb re-evaluate table conditions. If you don't like your seat or table, nit it up until your blinds hit, then leave.
Tend to leave if you drop 100bb at a table.

Advantages to a less than 100bb stack:
It's easier to set-up favorable stack-to-pot ratios.
It simplifies one pair decsions. You just pretty much go all-in unless you're pretty sure you're crushed.
Pulling the trigger all-in is much more accessable. All-in is a weapon that I don't feel I use often enough 100bb+ deep unless the game is juiced.
You often get read as a fish. Regulars bluff you less and tend to felt pretty good hands instead of making well thought-out laydowns. Consider all the -EV shit people do for a table image like that. All I had to do was buy-in for less than max!
It changes up the decisions, hence full-buy in robots will be more likely to make errors against you.
Set-mining is less effective against you.
More options to play a monster to get all the money in since you don't need to get in a full 3 or 4 big bets.

"The way you win at chicken is to throw the steering wheel out the window in full view of your opponent" - David Skylansky

Drawbacks to playing less than 100bb:
Can't get as much value from strong second best hands or calling stations. (Most calling stations have less than 100bb anyway.)
Often don't get to the river with or against a draw in a raised pot.
Can't trap someone for their stack when they flip the spew bit (although it's hard to make a hand strong enough to do this anyway).

Although I don't like 20bb deep because I feel it takes the play out of some of my best streets, too much pressure on making a hand and the rake doesn't cap out on as many hands.

Adjusting to play 40-60bb deep:
Big cards go up in value.
Good one pair hands tend to get felted. Try to get the money in by the turn.
Hence, draws lose value against a "made" hand because they often can't bet the river for value.
Strong draws can commit on the flop.
Suited trash goes down in value. Don't even bother without initiative + position.
Reads on your opponent lose value over strong play.
Can't float around hoping for a chance to win as much.

If you find yourself playing cards more than getting great reads. Playing infrequently enough that you don't know the regulars in your player pool. Totally lost in difficult one pair spots on the river. Going for a quantity over quality approach to poker profits. Then I think this approach is very +++EV for you.

[adyshorr]

Half stack poker sucks, si fac pariu ce el nu joaca half stack poker , sau nu stie ca asta face.

[pokkerface]

Intr-adevar half stack poker sucks dar la Pokerstars mesele de 20-50bb au mai multi fishi decat cele normale. Mai bine lasau mesele asa cum erau inainte.

[udroiu80]

joc la mese unde full buy in este de 250bb, adica 12.5$ . Eu intru cu 3$ datorita bankroll ului , deci intru cu 60 buy in. Jocul la aceasta miza, din cate am vazut nu prea tine cont de ss, bs sau half stack...In alta ordine de idei, pokkerface avea oarecum dreptate, am citit articolul lui si cam asa este si in realitate, cu toate ca eu nu stiam ca ce joc eu se apropie de half strategy...Tot ce am citit si am incercat sa invata au fost articole de full buy in 6 max. Incerc sa trec la 10NL unde voi intra cu full stack ,adica 100 bb uri. Pana atunci voi juca la 5NL, mai stau putin cu 3$ buy in iar apoi voi intra cu 100bb, adica cu 5 dolari....Oricum, mi se pare oarecum ciudat sa zic ca aplic strategia bss la mese de 250bb iar eu sa intru cu 100bb...Oricum baieti, va multumesc mult pentru informatii, sunt foarte folositoare si voi incerca sa tin cont de ele!

[bugs3479]

daca joci cu 60bb nu ai odds de multe chestii, cum ar fi set mining. si seturile sunt, la mine cel putin, o sursa importanta de winrate. matematica e diferita la 60bb fata de 100bb, si risti sa iti formezi deprinderi care sa functioneze la 60bb si sa iesi pe plus, dar la 100bb aceleasi scheme sa te scoata pe minus destul de rau.

[crippless]

21/9 e mai mult decat decent...
la miza asta cu Q T iti da call la 3bet si baga restul pe turn
nits.......